Evolucija življenja in kozmologija

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Evolucija življenja in kozmologija

Odgovor Napisal/-a Srečko » 19.1.2018 13:28

Ko sem hodil v šolo, sem se učil biologijo. Profesorji so nam povedali, da je življenje nastalo v morjih, da je to bil rezultat slučajnih mutacij in da se življenje razvija le na našem planetu, nikjer drugje v vesolju ga ni. Meni se je ta razlaga zdela površna, imel sem občutek, da bi evolucijo življenja morali povezati s kozmologijo, da bi morali življenje obravnavati kot proces, ki se primarno dogaja v vesolju in sekundano na našem planetu.
S kolegi smo objavili en članek na temo in ga pred kratkim objavili v NeuroQuantologiji. Seveda se nekaterim taki novi pogledi zdijo povsem odveč, ampak znanost se razvija in gre narej. Revija NeuroQuantology gre v korak s časom. :D
https://www.neuroquantology.com/index.p ... w/1106/874

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Re: Evolucija življenja in kozmologija

Odgovor Napisal/-a vojko » 19.1.2018 23:26

Srečko (s Ptüja) je napisal:
Ko sem hodil v šolo, sem se učil biologijo.
Lepo od tebe.
Profesorji so nam povedali, da je življenje nastalo v morjih, da je to bil rezultat slučajnih mutacij
Premalo! Morali bi dodati: "... plus naravnega izbora po splošno znani darwinistični paradigmi."
in da se življenje razvija le na našem planetu, nikjer drugje v vesolju ga ni.
To seveda ne drži in tega ne bi trdil noben povprečno izobražen biolog na vaški osnovni šoli. Mimogrede, katero šolo pa si obiskoval? :lol:
Meni se je ta razlaga zdela površna, imel sem občutek, da bi evolucijo življenja morali povezati s kozmologijo, da bi morali življenje obravnavati kot proces, ki se primarno dogaja v vesolju in sekundano na našem planetu.
Tako je, takšna razlaga ni samo 'površna', je preprosto neznanstvena. Mimogrede, ali naš planet ni 'v vesolju', kjer se po tvoje 'primarno dogajajo' vsakovrstni 'procesi'? :lol:
S kolegi smo objavili en članek na temo in ga pred kratkim objavili v NeuroQuantologiji. Seveda se nekaterim taki novi pogledi zdijo povsem odveč, ampak znanost se razvija in gre narej.
Z 'nekaterimi' menda misliš na resne znanstvenike, kaj, Srečko? :lol:
Revija NeuroQuantology gre v korak s časom.
... kot v tistem filmu 'Nazaj v prihodnost'? :lol: Poglejva, kaj si o ustanovitelju te 'revije, ki gre v korak s časom' mislijo njegovi dragi rojaki iz Izmira:

"First of all meet the person behind the scene, doctor Sultan Tarlacı. he is a medical doctor of neurology working in our lovely city of izmir, at a private hospital. he is a writer of many books and operator of a blog called 'quantum brain' (kuantumbeyin) which is a "best of" assembly of bullshit buzzwords including but not only constrained to: quantum, psi, parapsychology, neurophilosophy. he also publicizes his books on brain, psychology and quantum physics and seems to have gathered some following due to his exotic assortment of topics.

There is nothing wrong up to this point. but when the jokes stop being a joke and the feyerabendian distopic scientific practice (=proliferation of the "truth value" of a topic through propaganda and public relations) starts to be applied for this pseudo scientific discourse then the line needs to be drawn. it turns out neuroquantology is not just a bullshit topic in a blog but a editor reviewed journal.

As good rationalist physicists we disseminated the bullshit and appropriately ridiculed it on friendfeed. but the funny thing is, apparently our dear doctor googles himself hence paid us a visit and even made us famous in his blog by answering our allegations and linking to our friendfeed topic!"
http://marxistsinspace.blogspot.si/2010 ... s-new.html

Torej, Srečko? Očitno ni samo Sadri Hassani edini, 'ki nima pojma' ... :lol:

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Re: Evolucija življenja in kozmologija

Odgovor Napisal/-a Srečko » 20.1.2018 16:47

Vojko
časopis ima SCI in impact factor 0,6. Mogoče je pa malo znansti le v njem. Mi Slovenci nimamo niti enega časopisa ki bi imel SCI. Ali pa ga imamo, pa jaz ne vem, Sporoči....bom poslal članek. pozdrav Srečko :D

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Re: Evolucija življenja in kozmologija

Odgovor Napisal/-a vojko » 20.1.2018 19:06

Srečko napisal/-a:
20.1.2018 16:47
Vojko
časopis ima SCI in impact factor 0,6. Mogoče je pa malo znansti le v njem. Mi Slovenci nimamo niti enega časopisa ki bi imel SCI. Ali pa ga imamo, pa jaz ne vem, Sporoči....bom poslal članek. pozdrav Srečko :D
Mogoče je pa malo znansti le v njem.
V "Slovenski kuharici" tudi ... :lol:

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Re: Evolucija življenja in kozmologija

Odgovor Napisal/-a shrink » 21.1.2018 15:27

Srečko napisal/-a:
20.1.2018 16:47
Vojko
časopis ima SCI in impact factor 0,6. Mogoče je pa malo znansti le v njem. Mi Slovenci nimamo niti enega časopisa ki bi imel SCI. Ali pa ga imamo, pa jaz ne vem, Sporoči....bom poslal članek. pozdrav Srečko :D
A, dej no, dej, Srečko, a ga spet sračkaš? Seveda obstajajo slovenske revije, ki "imajo SCI":
IMG_20180121_152630.jpg
:lol:

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Odgovor Napisal/-a Srečko » 22.1.2018 5:42

to je pa super, sam ene revije za fiziko pa ni..... :D
mogoče bi jo pa lahko naredili,
ker Slovenija ima veliko dobrih fizikov
bom še jaz poslal kak članek
na temo
Bijektivna Matematična Fizika
kjer je vsak element enačbe enoznačno povezan z elementom v naravi, ki je merjen ali opazovan.
v matematiki higgsovega polja je pa vse v zraku.
Peter Higgs se je spomnu ene enačbe, ki nima realne povezave s fizičnim svetom.
Fiziki so bili pred 30 leti zelo skeptični o njegovi ideji o tem, da bi neko polje lahko dajalo maso delcem.
Ker pa je bela ideja objavljena v PRL, so jo potem toliko časa obdelovali, da je postala del "resne fizike".
Na koncu je bilo treba najti še dokaze. Pa so jih našli v "odkritju" Higgsovega bozona, ki ima življenjski čas 1,56 x 10E-22 sekunde in naj bi dajal maso protonu, ki ima življensko dobo milione - miliarde let ali še več. Higgsovega bozona v naravi ni, to je le trenutni flux energije, ki nima veze z maso delcev, kot je povedal že Albert....."Mass of a body is a measure of its energy-content". Albert Einstein

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Odgovor Napisal/-a vojko » 22.1.2018 11:51

Srečko napisal/-a:
22.1.2018 5:42
to je pa super, sam ene revije za fiziko pa ni..... :D
mogoče bi jo pa lahko naredili,
ker Slovenija ima veliko dobrih fizikov
bom še jaz poslal kak članek
na temo
Bijektivna Matematična Fizika
kjer je vsak element enačbe enoznačno povezan z elementom v naravi, ki je merjen ali opazovan.
v matematiki higgsovega polja je pa vse v zraku.
Peter Higgs se je spomnu ene enačbe, ki nima realne povezave s fizičnim svetom.
Fiziki so bili pred 30 leti zelo skeptični o njegovi ideji o tem, da bi neko polje lahko dajalo maso delcem.
Ker pa je bela ideja objavljena v PRL, so jo potem toliko časa obdelovali, da je postala del "resne fizike".
Na koncu je bilo treba najti še dokaze. Pa so jih našli v "odkritju" Higgsovega bozona, ki ima življenjski čas 1,56 x 10E-22 sekunde in naj bi dajal maso protonu, ki ima življensko dobo milione - miliarde let ali še več. Higgsovega bozona v naravi ni, to je le trenutni flux energije, ki nima veze z maso delcev, kot je povedal že Albert....."Mass of a body is a measure of its energy-content". Albert Einstein
Peter Higgs se je spomnu ene enačbe, ki nima realne povezave s fizičnim svetom.


... in za to dobil Nobelovo nagrado. :lol:

Vidiš, to je par excellenece primer, kako si mali Srečko iz Ptüja predstavlja delovanje znanosti: 'člouk se kar spomni ene enačbe' (ki - mimogrede - celo 'nima realne povezave s fizičnim svetom') in - pufff - že dobi vabilo za Stockholm ... :lol:

Vsa crème de la crème svetovne elite fizike se klanja profesorju Higgsu - le Srečko iz Ptüja ve, da to, kar počne sivolasi profesor iz Edinburgha 'nima realne povezave s fizičnim svetom' ... :lol:

Eh, moj Srečko ... :lol:

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Odgovor Napisal/-a shrink » 22.1.2018 13:07

Hah, Srečko, saj tvoji "članki" niso fizika, so eno navadno sračkanje. :lol:

P.S. Poskusi poslati eno svoje sračkanje v "Obzornik za matematiko in fiziko". Sicer nima faktorja vpliva, a nič ne de: če si res tako velik "fizik", te bodo s širokimi rokami sprejeli. Poročaj o o odzivu urednika. :lol:

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Odgovor Napisal/-a Srečko » 22.1.2018 17:26

dejstvo je da veliko enačb v fiziki nima stika z realnim svetom, bolj strokovno rečeno: "nima bijektivne preslikave" z realnim svetom.
začelo se je, ki je Lorentz zato da bi ohranil eter v fiziki zapisal enačno, po kateri se objekti v smeri gibanja krčijo:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Length_contraction
Length contraction was postulated by George FitzGerald (1889) and Hendrik Antoon Lorentz (1892) to explain the negative outcome of the Michelson–Morley experiment and to rescue the hypothesis of the stationary aether (Lorentz–FitzGerald contraction hypothesis).[2][3]
Tudi Higgsov mehanizem nima stika s fizičnim svetom, ker temelji na napačni predpostavki, da bi lahko neko polje dajalo maso delcem. Delci imajo svojo lastno energijo in tako maso.
Higgs model ne zna razložiti nič:
- higgs polje ne reagira z glouni ki so 99% mase protona
- ne reagira s fotoni
- ne vemo njegovih fizikalnih lastnosti,
- ne vemo v kakšni relaciji je z relativistično maso delcev.
Higgs mehanizem je zame čista "znanstvena illuzija".
Bomo videli kaj bo prinesel čas,
koliko časa bo ta stavba brez temeljev stala.
ta tip ki je študent fizike je jasno povedal, da daje Higgsovo polje le 1% mase protona
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ztc6QPNUqls
pa še to ne drži.....ker tudi kvarki imajo svojo lastno energijo.

ta video je namenjen da bi razumeli kako deluje Higgs mehanizem
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=joTKd5j3mzk
ideja je, da noben delec nima mase, vsi so brez mase, maso dobijo šele,
ko reagirajo z Higgs poljem, foton na primer ne reagira, pa zato nima mase.
to je pravljica za lahko noč, ne pa fizika :D

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Odgovor Napisal/-a shrink » 25.1.2018 16:08

Dejstvo je, Srečko, da ga že nekaj desetletij na veliko sračkaš, pravim fizikom pa je za tvoje sračkanje prav malo mar. Zato, Sračko, nikar praznih besed ne razdiraj. :lol:

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Odgovor Napisal/-a Srečko » 23.2.2018 18:02

srink "pravi fiziki" so odkrili higgsovo polje
ki ga ni.....si predstavljaš, da odkriješ nekaj česar ni in ti dajo nobelovo.
srink jaz sem NE-PRAVI fizik
FIZIK NEPRIDIPRAV
ki je dokazal po vseh znanstvenih standardih
da je higgsov bozon nateg stoletja

jaz sem pripravlen na javno debato z vsakim slovenskim fizikom, lahk pa tut s CERNA.
in ti obljubljam, da bo od higgsa ostalo le še malo prahu...... :D

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Odgovor Napisal/-a shrink » 23.2.2018 19:06

Zate še časa ni, Sračko, a leta, desetletja tečejo, kar kaže na to, da si bil, si in boš ostal šarlatan. :lol:

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Odgovor Napisal/-a Srečko » 23.2.2018 19:44

srink
čas je le matematični parameter gibanja v prostoru, kjer je zmeraj zdaj.
https://link.springer.com/article/10.10 ... 014-9840-y
da to kapiraš moraš imeti IQ vsaj 120
ti ga pa imaš 20
manjka ti 100 srink
pa saj nisi nič kriv zato
narava te pač ni obdarila s pametjo :D

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Odgovor Napisal/-a shrink » 23.2.2018 19:55

Seveda, seveda, Sračko, le oglej si še enkrat odzive na tvoja "genialna" oglašanja:
Translation : "I'm either too stupid or too lazy to learn any relativity before I start whining about how all of science is wrong and I'm right and now I'd rather someone else put in the effort to explain it to me than I spend one iota of time and effort actually reading and learning from a book".
A meaningless (and oxymoronic) concept.
With herculean emphasis on the 'moronic .
Cranks always believe that, and they're always unable to actually show it. Word salad isn't enough.
Meaningless garbage.
amrit napisal/-a:alex sometime is better to be still.................
than spewing meaningless garbage all over the forum? I agree.
amrit napisal/-a:My work here is done.
Then by all means, leave.
Word salad. It doesn't mean much of anything.
Showing more of your ignorance.
Your evidence for your claim is your claim rewritten into several A4 pages? Obviously the scientific method or even basic logic is beyond you.

To justify your claim you need to do more than just restate your claim. Otherwise you'd have to accept the following :

Proposition : You're an idiot.

Proof : You're an idiot.

In reality though, you're an idiot.
:lol:
Yet things still happened long before you got here, dumbass.
Amrit = run of cholera.
So you keep insisting. Problem is your a clueless nutjob who probably can't tie your own shoes, not to mention dead wrong.
sensation of time is of no value for scienctific research which is why we use non-subjective means to measure it.
What makes you thick, armpit?
armit, I'm sorry, but sometimes we need to take some of our own advice, in your case this advice would be ... wake up.
As is the sensation of the wind blowing through your hair, that doesn't mean the wind does not exist!
Amrit -- the joke is that "What makes us tick" is not about time but the human perception of time and your typo of "What makes us thick" appears as a self-proclamation of abject stupidity, especially to the British idiom. Your repeated errors are symptomatic of someone using cut-and-paste in lieu of the necessary deep understanding which a claim of reading the paper at the professional level would imply.

In your struggles to appear knowledgeable, you merely appear, and this is using your own words here, thick.

No one believes you are capable of reading Nature Reviews Neuroscience when you haven't mastered the citation form which lists when the article was published.
amrit napisal/-a:I work on that subject for 20 years
And Alex Jones worked on Cold Fusion for his entire academic career, he failed. Good thing(for him) that 911 came along so he could sell his scientific cred to the troothers.
amrit napisal/-a:1. sensation of motion happening in linear time is result of neuronal activity of the brain
SENSATION IS NOT THE OBJECT OR FORCE BEING SENSED.
amrit napisal/-a:2. motion runs in timeless space
So you keep insisting, nobody agrees with you.
amrit napisal/-a:3. with clocks we measure duration of motion
4. duration of motion is result of measurement, motion itself has no duration
MEASUREMENT IS NOT THAT BEING MEASURED, nor is that being measure the result of the act of measurement. Time exists and passes whether we are here to measure it or not.

It seems you have wasted the last 20 years of your life, man up and move on.
amrit napisal/-a:I work on that subject for 20 years
What a waste of er.... time. Still, it gave him something to do.
:lol:
amrit napisal/-a:grumpi with you i'll do not discuss the subject as you do not understand it at all
better you do not comment................
Does anyone else see the incredibly funny irony in that statement?

I imagine Amrit never will.
amrit napisal/-a:PS grumpy please keep quite..........
Quite what??? Quite capable of smelling the crap you keep shovelling onto our forum, maybe???
:lol:
amrit napisal/-a:I work on that subject for 20 years, you will see in 5-10 yeas this vision of time will enter main stream, see more on
But in those 20 years you've not been published anywhere reputable, you haven't learnt a single bit of science, you know nothing of mainstream physics, you can't do any of even the basic mathematics of science and yet you believe it'll all magically turn around in the next few years, just like Sylwester does. You (and he) have failed miserably and yet you continue to try to push your nonsense.
armpit napisal/-a:13. Catalin V. Buhusi, Warren H. Meck, What makes us thick?, Functional and neural mechanisms of interval timing, Nature reviews, Volume 6, October 2005
Yep, what makes you so "thick", armpit?
amrit napisal/-a:see references
all confirm that time is clocks run in timeless space..........
No, some, perhaps all, put forth that hypothesis. They do not 'confirm' it. And simply quoting Einstein doesn't make you right, he was wrong about a lot of things. And you didn't actually retort my point, that after 20 years you know no science, have nothing reputable published and you're reduced to posting your 'work' on forums, not in journals.
amrit napisal/-a:6. time, means clock run is man invention
Again, grammar is atrocious. I can't even figure out what that means.
Fun Internet Fact of the Day:

On the internet, typing in all-caps is equivalent to yelling, so don't do it.
(hint: people will think you're stupid if you combine all-caps with bad grammar)

If you want to be taken seriously, change your profile signature, etc to reflect conversational grammar. i.e. Read it back to yourself, and see if it makes sense. You can also use a friend to help!
Alice knows! Who ate the mushroom that had the clock in it?

Pardon. Amrit is is dire need of language lessons, much less physics.
amrit napisal/-a:I'm getting boring
No, you've been boring from the very start(not to mention wrong), we've been bored by you for some time now.
amrit napisal/-a:im getting tired explain that again and again
You aren't explaining anything, you just mindlessly repeat the same things again and again. Your 'papers' are just the same, rewording one another and being too short to actually be of any use. You shouldn't be trying to write physics, your 'ideas' are closer to philosophy, as your work has zero impact on how physics is actually done.

Besides, if you are tired of saying it and we are tired of listening to it SHUT UP. Then everyone is happy!
I'm glad to see that you can write coherent English on your "research" paper, but that doesn't hide the vacuous content.
amrit napisal/-a:grumpy all runs slower on the earth than on the moon
your mind too......................
Wait, you're a Mooninite? This explains everything.
I'm glad to see that you can write coherent English on your "research" paper, but that doesn't hide the vacuous content.


He isn't, someone else is doing it for him. He just pays the other idiots and let him put his name on the garbage they write.
amrit napisal/-a:you tell me whAT IS TIME...............IN 5 SENTENCES

I WILL DESTROY YOU IN 1 SENTENCE

NOT WITH INSULTING, BY INTELLIGENCE
Are you some kind of intelligence form of anti-matter? When you come in contact with intelligence you destroy both it and yourself?
:lol:
So everyone in the field of physics is wrong, and you're right.

A classic nutcase.
amrit napisal/-a:so it is.........
Nope, still wrong.
amrit napisal/-a:1. physical events do not run in time but in space only
wrong
amrit napisal/-a:2. we experience physical events run in mind time
wrong.
amrit napisal/-a:3. events have no duration on its own
wrong.
amrit napisal/-a:4. we give them duration by measuring them
wrong.

Does that help?
ter dulcis in fundo:
Amrit Sorli is a crank. Are you Amrit?
Amrit, you one line fuckwit!
Amshit,

Please spare us all the criminally stupid uba-regurgitative codswallop and steep your head in a bucket of fetid herring excrement where it belongs.
:lol:
Amrit Sorli is a crackpot (and so are you, since you ARE Amrit Sorli).
amrit sorli, self-promoting crackpot
It's an unfathomable mystery why Amrit posts on science based sites?

Much like a blind man posing as a photographer, or a quadriplegic attempting to perform a juggling act.

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Odgovor Napisal/-a Srečko » 24.2.2018 17:42

srink mam pitanje zate daj napni mišice.....

VPŠAŠANJE ZA TISTE KI SE SPOZNATE NA FIZIKO IN RELATIVNOST
Einsteinovo teorijo študiram 40 let. Kar vidim, je, da večina fizikov te teorije še danes ne razume popolnoma.
Pa dajmo to prevert. Dajmo si zamislit, da ste vi v eni vesoljski ladji, ki potuje po vesolju. Vzporedno z vami se giblje druga vesoljska ladja, v kateri je Albert Einstein. Z Einstenom imate radijsko zvezo. Pokliče vas in vam pove, da mu ne dela merilec hitrosti. Isto se je zgodilo tudi vam in mu to poveste. Potem vas Einstein vpraša: Oj, a ti veš, kako bi midva lahko izmerila, katera ladja se giblje hitreje? Če si študiru mojo Relativnost, potem bi to moral vedeti !

Srink povej odgovor. Če boš znal zapustim ta forum for ever....! :D

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