Re: Regulatorji biopolja
Objavljeno: 26.7.2013 16:27
Priznam, si konsistenten.
Potem pa reguliraj biopolje. Ti kupim biokil?
Potem pa reguliraj biopolje. Ti kupim biokil?
Razprave o življenju, vesolju in sploh vsem.
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Ja saj, navsezadnje je on avtor znane sekularne religije.ZdravaPamet napisal/-a:Predlagam v branje Marxa. Od njega boš izvedel, kako deluje religija.
Res? Katere?Popotnik napisal/-a:Ja saj, navsezadnje je on avtor znane sekularne religije.
Priznal bi, da najbrž res vemo malo, vendar pa tisto vemo z veliko gotovostjo. Še več: za tisto kar vemo smo prepričani, da deluje, četudi nihče drug v to ne ”verjame”. Gravitacija nas vleče navzdol, pa če vanjo verjamemo ali ne. Res pa znanstveniki ne poznamo smisla besede ”ogenj” in nam zanjo očitno ni mar. Morda to ni najbolje, saj nas bo ta ognenj ožgal vse. Po drugi strani pa se ta simbolični ogenj lahko kaj hitro v rokah fanatikov sprevrže v pravi ogenj kot priča zgodovina tako sakralnih religij kot sta kršćanstvo in budizem, pa tudi sekularnih religij kot je marksizem in podobni umotvori.
Hm, zdi se mi kar smiselno povedano. Kaj meniš?Marx napisal/-a: The foundation of irreligious criticism is: Man makes religion, religion does not make man. Religion is, indeed, the self-consciousness and self-esteem of man who has either not yet won through to himself, or has already lost himself again. But man is no abstract being squatting outside the world. Man is the world of man – state, society. This state and this society produce religion, which is an inverted consciousness of the world, because they are an inverted world. Religion is the general theory of this world, its encyclopaedic compendium, its logic in popular form, its spiritual point d’honneur, its enthusiasm, its moral sanction, its solemn complement, and its universal basis of consolation and justification. It is the fantastic realization of the human essence since the human essence has not acquired any true reality. The struggle against religion is, therefore, indirectly the struggle against that world whose spiritual aroma is religion.
Religious suffering is, at one and the same time, the expression of real suffering and a protest against real suffering. Religion is the sigh of the oppressed creature, the heart of a heartless world, and the soul of soulless conditions. It is the opium of the people.
The abolition of religion as the illusory happiness of the people is the demand for their real happiness. To call on them to give up their illusions about their condition is to call on them to give up a condition that requires illusions. The criticism of religion is, therefore, in embryo, the criticism of that vale of tears of which religion is the halo.
Criticism has plucked the imaginary flowers on the chain not in order that man shall continue to bear that chain without fantasy or consolation, but so that he shall throw off the chain and pluck the living flower.[1]
Popotnik napisal/-a:Ja saj, navsezadnje je on avtor znane sekularne religije.ZdravaPamet napisal/-a:Predlagam v branje Marxa. Od njega boš izvedel, kako deluje religija.
Hudirja, kako zelo podobno zveni ta globoka ugotovitev tisti Rumsfeldovi globoki ugotovitvi o "known unknowns ..."Popotnikov Profesor napisal/-a:Priznal bi, da najbrž res vemo malo, vendar pa tisto vemo z veliko gotovostjo.
Še več: za tisto kar vemo smo prepričani, da deluje, četudi nihče drug v to ne ”verjame”.
Ajde, kaj takega. Zanimiv možakar ta Gravitacija, vleče pa če verjameš ali ne ...Gravitacija nas vleče navzdol, pa če vanjo verjamemo ali ne.
Res pa znanstveniki ne poznamo smisla besede ”ogenj” in nam zanjo očitno ni mar.
Resnično ne bi bilo dobro, da na sta ogenj vse ožge ... čeprav imam občutek, da smo že dodobra "ožgani"Morda to ni najbolje, saj nas bo ta ognenj ožgal vse.
Če pustim ob strani to bravuro logičnega sosledja, kot to tudi ZdravaPamet slikovito opredeli, bi te zgolj vprašal, kateri umotvori poleg marksizma tudi spadajo med sekularne religije?Po drugi strani pa se ta simbolični ogenj lahko kaj hitro v rokah fanatikov sprevrže v pravi ogenj kot priča zgodovina tako sakralnih religij kot sta kršćanstvo in budizem, pa tudi sekularnih religij kot je marksizem in podobni umotvori.