Higgsov mehanizem je demoliran

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Higgsov mehanizem je demoliran

Post by Srečko » 6.2.2019 7:53

no končno smo demolirali Higgsov mehanizem.
Bilo bi super, če bi Kvarkdabra na to temo organizirala
eno okroglo mizo.
Lahko bi jo vodil Sašo Dolenc,
pa še kakšnega fizika iz JŠ bi lahko povabili.
Jaz z veselem pridem. :)
To je namreč veliko odkritje za fiziko
in njen razvoj.
Higgs mehanizem je pahnil fiziko nazaj v srednji vek......v smislu, da vanj moraš verjeti,
ker ni falsifiabilen, ker ni bijektiven.
Tule je pa članek:
http://www.ultraphysicalsciences.org/pa ... -mechanism

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Re: Higgsov mehanizem je demoliran

Post by vojko » 6.2.2019 13:43

Srečko wrote:
6.2.2019 7:53
no končno smo demolirali Higgsov mehanizem.
Bilo bi super, če bi Kvarkdabra na to temo organizirala
eno okroglo mizo.
Lahko bi jo vodil Sašo Dolenc,
pa še kakšnega fizika iz JŠ bi lahko povabili.
Jaz z veselem pridem. :)
To je namreč veliko odkritje za fiziko
in njen razvoj.
Higgs mehanizem je pahnil fiziko nazaj v srednji vek......v smislu, da vanj moraš verjeti,
ker ni falsifiabilen, ker ni bijektiven.
Tule je pa članek:
http://www.ultraphysicalsciences.org/pa ... -mechanism
no končno smo demolirali Higgsov mehanizem.

Kdo so to 'mi', moliću fino, Srečko? To mora biti think-tank bibličnih razsežnosti ... :lol: Koliko pa vas je v tem think-tanku? Samo 'znanstveniki' iz tvojega FOPI, ali še kdo iz DISCOVERY INSTITUTA? :lol: :lol:

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Re: Higgsov mehanizem je demoliran

Post by Srečko » 6.2.2019 22:38

vojko nič novega pri tebi......v 3 letih nisi niti enkrat komentiral vsebine....to veliko pove o tebi: pojma nimaš. :wink:
tu si preber zadnji članek od Patrota....https://link.springer.com/article/10.10 ... 19-04023-9

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Re: Higgsov mehanizem je demoliran

Post by vojko » 6.2.2019 23:50

Srečko wrote:
6.2.2019 22:38
vojko nič novega pri tebi......v 3 letih nisi niti enkrat komentiral vsebine....to veliko pove o tebi: pojma nimaš. :wink:
tu si preber zadnji članek od Patrota....https://link.springer.com/article/10.10 ... 19-04023-9
Kakšne VSEBINE, Srečko moj?! NIČ ni bilo vrednega komentiranja, Srečko. Dokler boš nakladal svoje halucinacije, ki niso niti napačne, ampak so smešne, boš doživljal ledeni zid molka. Nič ne pomaga pozivati ljudi k okroglim mizam, seminarjem, debatam, vsiljevati svoje zmazke in greniti življenje forumašem, dokler ne bodo ocenili, da se jih splača komentirati.

Raje delaj naprej na vakuumskem kvantnem motorju ... :lol:

Pa brez zamere! :wink:

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Re: Higgsov mehanizem je demoliran

Post by osf » 7.2.2019 8:08

vojko wrote:
6.2.2019 23:50
... ledeni zid molka...
Zdi se mi, da se ne zavedas koliko oseb se sprasuje, koliko je vazno vlagati vsote denarja v nekaj, ki ne bo resilo problemov danasnje druzbe, za katero je zid molka pac znacilnost. Da bo manjsa skupscina sesala ekonomske vire vecje skupscine se mi zdi le tvoja velikanska halucinacija. Kar zameri, ce hoces.

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Re: Higgsov mehanizem je demoliran

Post by Srečko » 7.2.2019 9:34

"ledeni zid molka" - patetično to the max .....vojko ti imaš res ledeni zid v možganih.....pojdo malo na sonce, da se odtopiš :lol:

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Re: Higgsov mehanizem je demoliran

Post by celica » 7.2.2019 10:22

Srečko wrote:
6.2.2019 7:53
Tule je pa članek:
http://www.ultraphysicalsciences.org/pa ... -mechanism
Kaj pa v slovenščini

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Re: Higgsov mehanizem je demoliran

Post by vojko » 7.2.2019 17:08

Srečko wrote:
7.2.2019 9:34
"ledeni zid molka" - patetično to the max .....vojko ti imaš res ledeni zid v možganih.....pojdo malo na sonce, da se odtopiš :lol:
Povej raje, Srečko, če si čisto opustil idejo o perpetuum mobile (alias kvantni vakuumski motor)? :lol:

Saj si prišel že skoraj do 70% učinkovitosti ... Če bi imel boljše ležaje in bi ga postavil v vakuum (zato 'vakuumski' motor :idea: ), bi izkoristek morda spravil celo na 90%, kar so že dosegli pri state-of-art elektromotorjih ...

Pusti teorijo in se vrzi na prakso, je moj prijateljski dobronamerni nasvet ... leseni zabojček ti je dobro uspel; to je prava smer ... :lol:

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Re: Higgsov mehanizem je demoliran

Post by Roman » 8.2.2019 9:34

celica wrote:
7.2.2019 10:22
Kaj pa v slovenščini
V slovenščini se megla slabo prodaja.

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Re: Higgsov mehanizem je demoliran

Post by Srečko » 8.2.2019 23:02

debato smo razvili tudi na QUORI https://www.quora.com/Who-is-giving-mas ... -particles

Who is giving mass to the Higgs boson? Max Strassler says that the Higgs field does not give mass to the Higgs boson in the statement (4). How can Higgs boson which is massless giving mass to the elementary particles? :lol:
https://profmattstrassler.com/2012/10/2 ... ss-or-not/

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Re: Higgsov mehanizem je demoliran

Post by Srečko » 8.2.2019 23:07

jaz vem, kdo daje maso Higgsovemu bozonu !
BOG sam,mu daje maso.
Zato tudi ima ime "Božji delec".
Končno sem poštekal idejo Higgsovega mehanizma.
Ja, to pa to, zato se podeli Nobelova ! :lol:

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Re: Higgsov mehanizem je demoliran

Post by vojko » 9.2.2019 10:36

Srečko wrote:
8.2.2019 23:07
jaz vem, kdo daje maso Higgsovemu bozonu !
BOG sam,mu daje maso.
Zato tudi ima ime "Božji delec".
Končno sem poštekal idejo Higgsovega mehanizma.
Ja, to pa to, zato se podeli Nobelova ! :lol:
jaz vem, kdo daje maso Higgsovemu bozonu !
Mi tudi, mi tudi, Srečko! Bodi potolažen ... :lol: :lol: :lol:

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Re: Higgsov mehanizem je demoliran

Post by Srečko » 9.2.2019 18:32

tole sem danes objavil na research gate
https://www.researchgate.net/publicatio ... in_failure

, in poslal v CERN......po mojem me bodo takoj zaposlili. :lol:

The main idea of the Higgs mechanism is that some field must exist which “slow” down some particles as for example quarks. Quarks are interacting with this field and photons are not interacting.

Particles which interact with this field are “slowing down” and so getting the inertial mass. The main purpose of bringing Higgs mechanism in physics is to explain why some particles have inertial mass and others do not have inertial mass.

In physics today there is no clear understanding regarding the difference of mass as the amount of energy and inertial mass.

Scientific community today is prevalent thinking that Higgs field is giving mass as the amount of energy to some elementary particles, or at least some of this mass. For example, the Higgs field should give 1% of mass (mass as the amount of energy) to the proton. This view is destroying the beauty of physics and is not in accord with the Einstein’s “mass-energy equivalence” principle: 1% of proton mass which are quarks is given by Higgs field and 99% of the mass is of gluons. This is against “mass-energy equivalence principle” because it means that gluons are massless and Higgs field is giving them mass. Gluons have energy and so they have mass. The same is valid for photons. They do not have “inertial mass”.

To give some sense to the Higgs mechanism, the best solution is to say, that Higgs field is giving inertial mass to some particles because they interact with it. The proposed idea makes no much sense because then we have in physics 3 main fields, electromagnetic field, gravity field, and Higgs field and we have no idea how they are related.

Bijective Physics Group (BPG), www.bijectivephysics.com
we have done the job well. Origin of inertial mass and gravitational mass is the variable energy density of space, electromagnetism is the excitation of space (we call space also quantum vacuum), physicists see this article:

https://ujp.bitp.kiev.ua/index.php/ujp/ ... ew/2018206

other scientists see this article:

https://www.neuroquantology.com/index.p ... /1684/1246

Trillions of Euro was spent for the discovery of Higgs boson (God particle) which is not more than the momentary flux of energy released here and there by protons collisions. Higgs boson does not prove the existence of the Higgs field. If this money would be used for the research on the physical properties of space today we would have free energy and antigravity.

The best that can be done with the Higgs mechanism is abolishing it. We have done this already.

http://www.ultraphysicalsciences.org/pa ... -mechanism

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Re: Higgsov mehanizem je demoliran

Post by vojko » 9.2.2019 19:53

Srečko wrote:
9.2.2019 18:32
tole sem danes objavil na research gate
https://www.researchgate.net/publicatio ... in_failure

, in poslal v CERN......po mojem me bodo takoj zaposlili.

The main idea of the Higgs mechanism is that some field must exist which “slow” down some particles as for example quarks. Quarks are interacting with this field and photons are not interacting.

Particles which interact with this field are “slowing down” and so getting the inertial mass. The main purpose of bringing Higgs mechanism in physics is to explain why some particles have inertial mass and others do not have inertial mass.

In physics today there is no clear understanding regarding the difference of mass as the amount of energy and inertial mass.

Scientific community today is prevalent thinking that Higgs field is giving mass as the amount of energy to some elementary particles, or at least some of this mass. For example, the Higgs field should give 1% of mass (mass as the amount of energy) to the proton. This view is destroying the beauty of physics and is not in accord with the Einstein’s “mass-energy equivalence” principle: 1% of proton mass which are quarks is given by Higgs field and 99% of the mass is of gluons. This is against “mass-energy equivalence principle” because it means that gluons are massless and Higgs field is giving them mass. Gluons have energy and so they have mass. The same is valid for photons. They do not have “inertial mass”.

To give some sense to the Higgs mechanism, the best solution is to say, that Higgs field is giving inertial mass to some particles because they interact with it. The proposed idea makes no much sense because then we have in physics 3 main fields, electromagnetic field, gravity field, and Higgs field and we have no idea how they are related.

Bijective Physics Group (BPG), www.bijectivephysics.com
we have done the job well. Origin of inertial mass and gravitational mass is the variable energy density of space, electromagnetism is the excitation of space (we call space also quantum vacuum), physicists see this article:

https://ujp.bitp.kiev.ua/index.php/ujp/ ... ew/2018206

other scientists see this article:

https://www.neuroquantology.com/index.p ... /1684/1246

Trillions of Euro was spent for the discovery of Higgs boson (God particle) which is not more than the momentary flux of energy released here and there by protons collisions. Higgs boson does not prove the existence of the Higgs field. If this money would be used for the research on the physical properties of space today we would have free energy and antigravity.

The best that can be done with the Higgs mechanism is abolishing it. We have done this already.

http://www.ultraphysicalsciences.org/pa ... -mechanism
Fenomenalno, Srečko, epohalno, ti rečem!

Službo v CERNU imaš tako rekoč zagotovljeno! Izkušenega mizarja že dolgo iščejo ... :lol: :lol:

P.S. Ne glede na zagotovljen posel ti svetujem, da vseeno pošlješ tisti smrekov zabojček za vakuumski motor. Ziher je ziher, saj veš! :lol:

P.P.S. Pri stroških si 'malo' pretiraval: Trillions of Euro bi se po naše reklo: bilijone evrov. Bilijon pa je tisoč milijard. To je vseeno 'malo' preveč ...Celoten proračun EU (torej ne samo CERNA) je za fiskalno leto 2018 znašal 160.113,53 milijonov EUR (kratko: 160 milijard). To je drobtinica proti tvojim tisočim milijardam, za katere si ti prepričan, da so bile zapravljene za odkritje 'Higgsa'. :lol:

Svetujem ti, da ne omenjaš teh številk, ko boš šel na razgovor za službo; dobro bi bilo tudi za tvoj imidž, da govoriš lepo slovensko s ptüjskim naglasom, ne pa angleško. V obeh primerih bodo namreč morali zagotoviti prevajalca ... :lol:

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Re: Higgsov mehanizem je demoliran

Post by Srečko » 14.2.2019 19:48

160 miliard porabljenih v enem letu za pospeševanje protonov in njihovo medsebojno trkanje......za teoretično razlaganje isker, ki se sprostijo of trkih in oznanjanje "mega odkritij" !!?? :lol:
za ta denar bo lahko odkrili free energy direktno iz prostora, lahko bi odkrili antigavitacijo.
to trkanje ne bo nikoli dalo nobene tehnologije..... o tem povem v članku spodaj


Kardinalno nerazumavanje Higgsovega mehanizma :wink:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kHAKN45 ... e=youtu.be

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